We forget how young pro surfing is. How tender, how fragile.
Be very honest now.
Organised “competitive” surfing is wandering round in a dark alley in a night-dress calling for help from a mid-western police department, possibly in a terminal condition.
Completely cancelled by Covid-19.
Have you missed it?
Hankering for it?
Of those who put their hand up, put it down if you are in the local boardriders. You represent less than 10% of surfers, in Australia at least, a far, far smaller percentage anywhere else.
Surfing as Sport has effectively been completely and wholly absent planet-wide since Black Friday March 13 , 2020 and crowds, people actually surfing, as long as beaches are open, have been bigger than ever.
Right?
Surfing as a sport, dead.
Yet surfing more popular than ever.
Ergo, surfing is not sport.
Too quick to rush to the conclusion?
Hold on, poor Nicolas Carroll is choking on his cornflakes, I can read his mind – even over the internets he claims massive overreach.
Let’s walk it back a step: six months or so into the Covid crisis and surfing has never seemed less like a sport that at any time since pre-colonial Hawaii when wave sliding on boards was the subject of something like a sport.
I don’t know the details of the Hawaiian system, let’s hope Matt Warshaw or even better, someone from the islands themselves like Huli Opu or CkT might fill us in on the sporting aspects of the he’e nalu as it was practised prior to Jimmy Cook’s visitations during ka wā kahiko.
Notwithstanding that, since George Freeth passed it to Alex Hume Ford, who begat Jack and Charmian London’s embrace, promoted the Duke, who fired up Tom Blake, surfing has drifted away from sport towards Blakes “Church of the Open Sky.”
Ford himself started up the Outrigger Canoe Club in Waikiki as a way to quarantine beachfront land for surfing which “made it possible for every kid with guts to live at least half the day fighting the surf.”
We forget how young pro surfing is.
How tender, how fragile.
Green shoots die off, even established branches like Japan can dieback.
England was once home to CT events. Now, no more.
Even the USA with its coveted consumer market cannot sustain a single long-standing CT event.
Its status in Australia has been more assured thanks to the support of the taxpayer. But you could easily mount an argument that it reached it’s peak there sometime between 1976 and ’86 and has slowly been trading down on the social licence it banked in that golden decade.
Now, even the owners and governing body of the nominal Sport itself have lost confidence in their baby.
By their own hand they’ve lost focus and tried to pivot towards a “storytelling” organisation. Covid-19 has merely accelerated and put under the glare of unforgiving spotlights a process started by the governing body itself.
An own goal that will go down in History and spawn a thousand unread PhD’s in surf studies.
MR says it’s better than any natural wave.
Really? Says who?
If it was that fucking good the punters would be flocking to come watch instead of staying away in droves.
Gerry Lopez, says this “quintessential” perfect wave is going to really “push the envelope of surfing”.
Gezza, I’ve watched every minute of all three pro comps held there and snippets of the proof of concept “dummy” comp and I’d say there is literally nothing more false.
Oh, it’ll be like snowboarding half-pipe or skateboarding, they say.
One simple thought experiment will banish the fantasy.
What is a skateboarding half-pipe compared to?
Another skateboarding half-pipe.
A snowboard half-pipe can be compared to a mountain but the comparison can be engineered to be favourable.
A wavepool is now, and will be forever, compared to the ocean.
And even the dustiest Okie when asked to conjure surfing in the ocean will have a mental image of Laird at Teahupoo or G-Mac sliding down a hundred foot burger at Nazare.
Why would a head-high streak of pelican shit in a tub ever capture their imagination in comparison to that?
I say why, but I mean, how?
That’s Joe Blow and the armies of VAL’s. If you have any skin in the pro surfing game, then it’s compared to Chopes and Cloudbreak and even the electric blue cylinders of Kirra rifling down golden sandbanks.
Build ’em bigger you say.
This useless science degree I hold tells me the physics of moving water is brutal, and brutally expensive.
You build the half-pipe, you build it once.
The wave has to be built over and over and over.
Every. Single. Time.
And each time that plough runs through the water, the bank balance dribbles away.
Don’t worry, the dream won’t die.
We’ll figure something out.
We always do, even if we have to mow a few lawns to keep the rent paid in the interim.
In the meantime I think much fun taking the chat further with Chas and Derek tomoz on Dirty Water.
I got my brown sangas all ready to go.
Yew.
God, I hope Carroll calls in.
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what about bush weed?
It’s been said a million times but.. the ranch fucken sux to watch. I’m sure it’s a blast to surf though.
I couldn’t even get through JOB’s vlog a few weeks ago.. it’s just so same same. I could watch the ocean even when it’s kinda shit all day though..
As an avid surf watcher now I agree! I’ll watch dumpy half a foot shorebreak before I’ll enjoy the pool – monotony.
At what point in the 9:51 does he make his explanation ?
No way I’m about to watch that much hopping around and trick riding to hear a non- surfing ‘wheel and board gymnast’ give his opinion sorry.
Is surfing a sport or not a sport, for that is the question
I sure hope the great minds of our time can solve this, one of life’s great mysteries, some time soon
I really feel like it’s going to change my life
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause
I think you very wise man.
A comparison
Making porn and making love
Dick still goes in hole
Let me correct…
To bone, or not to bone, for that is the question…
What does that make Elo?
I’m really not sure
You’d have to ask dear Oprah
She’d have some good dirt
how does anyone look at Ke11y’s situation and say, I can shoe horn myself into this lineup.
I meant, why.
Why does Longtom’s photo always remind me of a screengrab from an English shoegaze bands video from the 90’s ?
15 seconds?
I think 10, not to quibble but also most rec surfers cannot make that tube.
either out-run it or get clipped.
Out-run and/or clipped because there is a lack of genuine forward power coming up and toward you to reach for and grab by all accounts.
Just a pocket push from the folding top.
Even JoB mentioned he had to ‘learn’ the wave, and a surfer of his caliber would’ve felt it immediately if it was happening like a real wave should…
Not that many cobber. The critical early wins, the ones that crushed his opposition, were all trials. The last event of the year at Sunset, he went through the trials. It was crazy.
I may as well post this here Longtom, http://www.surfparkcentral…. (maybe you already read it?)
just did then. Knew they would play the Covid/economic recovery card hard.
Yes, you might be right, I think everyone should maybe just quit and take up ice hockey or something……..But , “even in this ‘crowded’ world, it is still ‘possible’ for the surfer to paddle out and be ‘alone’ with the surf and his thoughts.”
Maybe a fusion of surfing and ice hockey may be what the WSL are looking for?
Bettr than nature ?
That’s ridiculous.
For a start, the physics of it are completely different to an actual ‘wave’.
It’s not a wave, it’s a ‘shunt’.
In Kellys? (Isn’t it owned by Dirk?) pool a section of water is being ‘shunted’ forward by a plow, and is not an actual ‘wave’.
Wave pools (especially the WSL owned one) do not work on actual waveforming physics that we’re used to riding. Hence when Parko rode it he quite accurately, and refreshingly honestly, said it felt completely different to an ocean wave as the energy is sourced differently.
There is no ‘draw’ off the bottom, there is no energy pulling back to (and up) the face, just a forward ‘shunt’, it is not a wave…
And as far as them working ‘forever’, yeah right, we saw at the comps they have to stop every hour or so for maintenance, and are running off an electrical grid that transfers nuclear and gas powered electricity from domestic users to enable this false premise that it’s running solely on solar (which would normally go to general California consumers had it not been diverted to this ‘non-wave’ machine).
Non surfing Canucks don’t know shit from shoe polish…
As someone who has probably pondered this more than most, once you move on shall we say, to a higher level of consciousness, or enlightenment, you may find pro surfing is like waves, the ultimate illusion, here for a brief moment–then gone………and you may find by getting back to nothing, you can find everything.
Just you and a wave. What more do you really need. Well, or something like that, you get my drift……….
“Waves are the ultimate illusion. They come out of nowhere, instantaneously materialize, and just as quickly they break and vanish. Chasing after such fleeting mirages is a complete waste of time, that is what I chose to do with my life, but I have wasted my time in a more graceful manner than most”.
P. S. Like LT said, it seems the Tribe is ahead of the curve, pro surfing disappeared, and its like, ‘no one even noticed’……….
Thanks Gandhi – you definitely the most enlightened being on here!!!!
Your welcome!
This I like – WSL is the reflection of the ageing surfer – middle life crisis middle girth spread represented by the overconsumption (greed lust ego) of the glory years now thrown back in the form of overpopulation and Val- competition as a new iteration is just another fad diet as we quietly get closer to the inevitable and our futile attempts to alter the course – didn’t Wayne Lynch say something about surfing growing up and it needs to acknowledge that – let it go hand it off because the best we have come up with is a performative version of a circle jerk.
Oh snap..putting the boots in again..
Hope Gez and MR weren’t expecting read another shark story from Chaz today.
I’d argue ten foot tubes are much rarer and more spectacular and break regularly in Tahiti and Indo during season.
an entire tour can be contested in two months in the Indian and So Pacific. done.
more importantly, legit
agreed. surely someone has to try.
There’s a shit load of Western “assuming” going on by you two.
Locals will have a completely different point of view.
add mex in there for good measure.
OK time again to put up or shut up. It’s a showdown with Longtom versus Nick in the tub. Best 10 outta 12 waves each. Better feed the dogs and hide your daughters cause this verbose squabble is way past the point of no return. Pursuant to ancient Hawaiian tradition, (see Kanaka Kingdom Rules, volume 3 section 2.4) the humbled loser must prepare and present to the victor a Spam cheeseburger whilst wearing his best floral muumuu and coconut bra.
lol wouldn’t that disprove the whole point of the piece.
I think the victor should eat the loser.
Thomas Victor should eat the loser.
It’s still ‘early July’
Still time for the next call to be made.
Erik’s got this.
no one will enjoy eating humble pie more than me if he pulls out of the nosedive
Here you’ll find conclusive proof that surfing is a sport
https://youtu.be/j74BfRlaHSQ
I think that was the heyday.
That’s how the American mags glorified it at the time. And they are never wrong.
I MISS IT.
I MISS IT A LOT.
I’m dreading a November/December without Hawaii.
” Tall streak of pelican shit” is a line from “Gallipoli” non?
Nah, it’s the soundtrack to my life.
is that where it comes from?
Yer, when their playing AFL at the base of the pyramids. ” We have to do something about that tall streak of pelican shit from South Australia ” or similar.
Hahaha.