Sly Stone, more surf than Brian Wilson.
Sly Stone, more surf than Brian Wilson.

Surf music has nothing to do with Brian Wilson and everything to do with Sly Stone

Sly Stone was transcendently hip and cool—in a way not wholly unlike surfing in its peak moments. 

Sly Stone and Brian Wilson were born just a few weeks apart, and departed in similar one-two fashion, earlier this month, at age 82.

For boomer-age music lovers, it felt like a death in the family. The double blow in fact made the loss feel greater than the sum of the two parts—never mind the fact that both beat long odds to even reach seniority. Unless you’re Paul McCartney, it is just about impossible to burn as brightly as Stone and Wilson did without veering into some kind of implosive black-star coda. The New York Times would have had fill-in-the-blanks obits filed for both men, I’m guessing, as far back as the late 1970s. 

Anyway, the algorithm sized me up right away, the online barrage began, and as of this afternoon, nearly two weeks after the fact, my feeds are still delivering Brian Wilson clips from across the decades—none of which I’ve lingered over; Wilson as a public figure is as flat and immaterial as his music is ravishing. The algorithm is not fully wrong. I am a South Bay Surfer after all, and my ascension to Valhalla, if the gods know their business, will be scored by side two of the Beach Boys’ Today LP.

But surf music, to me—meaning songs to which my formative surfing life was not just soundtracked but shaped, glazed and forged—has nothing to do with the Beach Boys or Brian Wilson and everything to do with Sly and the Family Stone. I Want to Take You Higher” was on the radio and turntables everywhere in Venice in 1969 and ’70, just as I was going full immersion into the sport, and 50-plus-years later the song continues fissioning in my head, there when needed, a command not only to turn the knobs up but to try and do it all—surfing, skating, dancing, walking from one end of the room to another—with flair and style and joy. It must have been the same for Larry Bertlemann, multiplied by 100. Bertlemann was always going to find a place at the top of our sport, but there is no doubt in my mind that he became the exalted and electrified Pope of high-performance surfing in 1972 only because we’d been prepared for such a figure by Sly Stone. 

It means a lot to me here in 2025, too, that the Family Stone was mixed-race and mixed-gender, and that the band, before Sly buried the project under a skip-loader-worth of PCP, was transcendently hip and cool—in a way not wholly unlike surfing in its peak moments. 

Which gives us a nice redirect back to Brian Wilson, because the peak moment in the peak surf film of the 1970s—Gerry Lopez in Five Summer Stories, slouching out of a Pipeline tube while a monsoon of spit blows past his head and shoulders—is scored to “Feel Flows,” a Beach Boys album cut from Surf’s Up, their 1971 comeback LP.  (The title track is also featured in Five Summer Stories, and I’ll say here that while I feel nothing but scorn for all the best-ever ranking of Beach Boys songs, I nonethelsss click on every list, and “Surf’s Up” is the consensus #1. No argument here—if anything ever had a chance at turning me religious it was this song, you could build a cathedral around it.)

One final thought.

Wilson and Sly Stone both, during their most productive and creative years, were always and without fail looking forward and above, and the message there I think is that us listeners should do the same. Nothing grounds me like hearing old favorite songs, especially if they come at me unexpectedly, from somebody else’s car speakers or in a movie soundtrack—the notes hit and lock in and I am flooded with gratitude. But the real thrill, just like when I was a kid, still comes from finding something new. There is an added bonus now, in fact, because I can often tease out a link between the old and new songs and, and when this happens I experience a kind of MDMA-like swoon of connectivity to people, genres, eras. Caroline Polachek’s “New Normal,” for example, is a knockout full-stop and no assistance required, but to my ear it also attaches itself like a strange spiky new molecule to “God Only Knows” and “If You Want Me to Stay.” Something to do with mid-verse tone shifts and the deleted chorus—Brian Wilson could explain it, I won’t even try. 

(Editor’s note: Yeah, this is the fine work of ol Matty Warshaw, keeper of the surf culture flame over at the Encylopedia of Surfing. Warshaw delivers these sexy-as-anything, tough guy prose hit-outs every Sunday afternoon and if you want ’em, and if you want to access the keys to his entire archive, toss a few peanuts his way. Five bucks a month.)

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Rich Marx
Rich Marx
1 year ago

I’ve always liked this song by Amen Dunes. Kinda nails the vibe of being a middle aged dude who surfed a lot as a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkoXy7I7LSg

Low wide stinkbug stance
Low wide stinkbug stance
1 year ago
Reply to  FlintyBadman

I swear this site is just full of Victorians. You got the RRR sticker on your bumper?

deeks
deeks
1 year ago

Pbs ! Fang it !

k55
k55
1 year ago

Dudes, did anyone even research this stuff?
Apparently, no one from the Safaris or Ventures or a lot of so called ‘instrumental’ surf bands actually surfed,
duh……no research…..
But everybody’s down on The Beach Boys, (who had Dennis Wilson—surfer.)
If you wanna get right down to it, the only ‘instrumental’ type band I could find where somebody actually surfed was ‘Dick Dale and the Del-Tones’.
Some guys from Honk surfed too but their music wasn’t all instrumental or a hard driving beat (like a wave breaking.), pretty mellow from my memory.
So there you have it!

Dick Dale wins: ‘The Battle of the (real) Surf-Bands’…..,.
with photographic proof below…..

https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

k55
k55
1 year ago
Reply to  k55

PS
and pretty sure, Sly and the Family Stone, did NOT surf…..

Picard Madeoff
Picard Madeoff
1 year ago

Great work and thank you Matt! Sly and the Family Stone offered two songs that were bookends on my father’s departure and return from the Vietnam War. Hot Fun in the Summertime was played repeatedly along with The Doors right before he left and Its a Family Affair was one of the first songs he played for us on his new Teac reel to reel when he returned.

HaoleBoy
HaoleBoy
1 year ago

Alot of music goes well with surfing, gangster rap doesn’t.

k55
k55
1 year ago

Dudes, give it a rest, you didn’t even mention Dick Dale, (the King of the Surf Guitar) who could rock the house down, The Ventures,, The Safaris, et al.
We all know that the above was ‘real’ surf music.

Wilson and bros just captured the other side of the surf scene….,and did it very very well……

Mike
Mike
1 year ago

https://uploads.disquscdn.c… Yesterday it was firing at El Porto😅

Charlie is CHRIST
Charlie is CHRIST
1 year ago
Charlie is CHRIST
Charlie is CHRIST
1 year ago
k55
k55
1 year ago

Classic—5 Summer Stories!

Mike
Mike
1 year ago

This was my surf music https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

Mike
Mike
1 year ago
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frank
frank
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike
Preston
Preston
1 year ago

Given Matt and I are close in age and that we both grew up in ‘70s So Cal, his recollections of the period are often very familiar. That said, I didn’t really find Sly and the fam until way later in life.
For my money, Honk is still the most underrated “surf band” ever. But I’m biased as they played at my 8th grade graduation dance. Good times.

Matt Warshaw
Matt Warshaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Preston

Hey Preston you were great in the Wave Tools doc, which I saw last weekend and really enjoyed!

Preston
Preston
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Warshaw

Cool. Those guys did a great job capturing ‘Lance’. He’s a beauty.

PacificNorthPest
PacificNorthPest
1 year ago
Reply to  Preston

I’m a bit younger than you two, and the music that most sticks with me as surf music comes from the soundtrack of surf movie Off The Wall II

https://youtu.be/UDFt_opVKjM?feature=shared

KnostMalone
KnostMalone
1 year ago
Reply to  Preston

Rumor has it Honk is going to play live in Newport to 5 Summer Stories…

Otto
Otto
1 year ago

“The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue.”

Medvedev

Stick man
Stick man
1 year ago

“You Wil never here ‘Surf Music’ again” – Hendrix

Skippy
Skippy
1 year ago
Reply to  Stick man

love that line and song!

Stick man
Stick man
1 year ago
Reply to  Skippy

Sooo good!

Skippy
Skippy
1 year ago
Reply to  Stick man

I mean haven’t we all heard Purple Haze enough effing times?

Stick man
Stick man
1 year ago
Reply to  Skippy

Yep. Third stone. Love or confusion. I don’t live today we’re wayyy sicker. Electric Ladyland. First Rays of the New Rising Sun. Gold!

k55
k55
1 year ago
Reply to  Stick man

If my memory is correct, I think that he said that because he thought Dick Dale had died.

Noncompetitor
Noncompetitor
1 year ago
Reply to  k55

Meanwhile Joe Satriani is like 107

Stick man
Stick man
1 year ago
Reply to  k55

That’s a fun fact if true.

Noncompetitor
Noncompetitor
1 year ago
Reply to  Stick man

But you will hear Hendrix in every Mason Ho clip

Stick man
Stick man
1 year ago
Reply to  Noncompetitor

Pretty much! At least it’s shtuff we don’t regularly hear…if ever.

Noncompetitor
Noncompetitor
1 year ago
Reply to  Stick man

Love Hendrix

frank
frank
1 year ago
Reply to  Noncompetitor

hahaha but yes, and some deep cuts good on ya MH!

Brutus
Brutus
1 year ago
Reply to  Stick man

ahhh….yes Jimi….and ode to Dick Dale…..you will never hear surf music again……..Rainbow Bridge, filmed on Mauii, Hendrix over looking Honolua bay with an acoustic….2 mths later he passed……..the wild Hendrix ….yes was a testament to surfing’s wild spirit….

Stick man
Stick man
1 year ago
Reply to  Brutus

I have Rainbow Bridge on vhs… couple classic scenes no doubt.

SectionSB
SectionSB
1 year ago
Reply to  Brutus

Pali Gap….one of his best songs.
I have said before, maybe if he stayed on Mauii a bit longer, gave surfing a try…….perhaps? Maybe next go round..

notsurfingtoday
notsurfingtoday
1 year ago

As i read through , i found odd there was no comparison between wilson’s wrinkly flaccid boomer dick vs sly stone’s racially profiled throbbing member.

Then i realised this was merely a DR cut /paste exercise.

Derek i get the point of plugging Matt Warsaw /EOS which is fully deserved and if i had any peanuts left, would definitely throw him some.

But credit where credit is due. Who’s gonna comment on their sexual endowments?

deeks
deeks
1 year ago
Skippy
Skippy
1 year ago
Reply to  deeks

wtf Slats?

Low wide stinkbug stance
Low wide stinkbug stance
1 year ago

This is a pretty incoherent take Matt.

Just because you are picking an arbitrary definition of surf music because it was played during your formative years doesn’t mean you get to redefine what “surf music” is. For starters, Surfin USA was 5 years before Sly and the family stone even started.

Second, if you are going to arbitrarily anoint Sly as “surf music” then you should be putting The Doors right up there. Fuck, you could put Hendrix too.

Surf music started out instrumental and you had bands like the Sandals and Dick Dale, then later on it was the Beach Boys. By all means call Sly funk or soul or whatever but it’s not surf music.

deeks
deeks
1 year ago

Has sooky lala slater made you pull that story?

Mike
Mike
1 year ago

Derek did you stop taking your meds? Slippery slope… you are following in Brian Wilson’s footsteps😄

Beef & Beer
Beef & Beer
1 year ago

Surfing stopped being cool and/or hip when Slater won his first world title.

P.S.
The conditions at the Nias QS are better than the Rio CT, as usual…

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
1 year ago
Reply to  Beef & Beer

Unless Nias is 6ft plus it’s a pretty dull affair.

Beef & Beer
Beef & Beer
1 year ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

True, but not as dull as the lefts out front at ‘Suck ya reamer’.

Unless it’s 6ft hollow rights at the other end of the beach (which is once in a blue moon) that place might as well be Cocoa Beach or Brighton Chchch etc…

janeausten
janeausten
1 year ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

Hmmm…I beg to differ. Maybe to watch on a webcast, but much fun in the just-breaking to 5 foot range if you are in luck with the crowd.

Low wide stinkbug stance
Low wide stinkbug stance
1 year ago
Reply to  Beef & Beer

Slater’s going bald killed pro surfing and the surf industry.

KnostMalone
KnostMalone
1 year ago

hahahaha


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