Thank you sir, may I have another etc.
The World Surf League remains under fire. Well-aimed salvos shot daily from all angles at the Santa Monica bunker.
A loyal army of entrenched BeachGrit snipers and artillerymen are among those leading the bombardment of dissatisfaction. Encouraged by Rielly and Smith, with stirrings from well-versed Longtom and his WWII Russian expertise, the Resistance grows stronger to the WSL’s ignore-the-core brand of pro surfing.
Some questions for you Commander Ziff, if I may be so bold.
How long can your WSL survive a constant barrage of criticism from all corners of the surfing world that you set out to conquer?
Are you growing concerned that your huge war chest is becoming noticeably more depleted? As El Supremo will you be waving a white flag soon?
Or do you expect the tide of fortune to turn when your elite guard is called to action on France’s historic shores of battle this week?
Meanwhile, the touring grunts on your Qualifying Series have been engaged in serious fighting on other European fronts. Credit to you Dirk and the WSL where it is due. The QS events this autumn have been a refreshing distraction to listen to and watch while the cannonade of your Championship Tour continues.
Decent swells, drama-filled heats, plenty of new faces and excellent surfing have made QS viewing a more attractive theater of surf war.
So, also, has a relaxed international commentary team. Brit wit Paul Evans and South African anchor Gigs Cilliers have called the shots in a more refrained style, kind of like Test cricket commentators do.
Please take note Dirk.
They let the live action largely do the talking, then add well-phrased observations when analyzing the replays, while all the time keeping us informed with changing sea conditions, useful stats and situations as they develop on the scoreboard. Compared to your more censored and monotonously repetitive over-cooked CT commentary, the presentation of these QS events makes for easier and better tuned-in listening.
This more laid-back style is also bringing out the best of hardened stalwarts like Peter Mel. The liberated Santa Cruz charger has found a good niche on the 10,000 series, sharing his knowledge of equipment while drawing on past experiences from years competing on the QS grind.
Australians Ben Mondy and Chris Binns are both reliable hacks. The two Aussie freelancers have proven themselves adept at roaming outdoors with a mic for background color, even climbing steep stairs and cliffs to get decent interviews.
Meanwhile Dirk, your CT continues to cop a pounding for its bland presentation and wearisome format. We love and appreciate that your webcasts are free of charge, thank you.
But, why persist in trying to entertain us with world title contests that take too long to complete with a surplus of competitors wasting time in meaningless rounds? Was the format designed by some of the CT surfers with strong positions on the Board who wanted to prolong their careers and chances of winning each comp?
Perhaps you and your WSL decision makers could look more closely at your QS events and see how well they are being presented. Maybe you might surprise us next year (if you haven’t surrendered by then) by doing something really radical, like ditching the entire WCT!
This would save you money while also making the world title race more meaningful and captivating. As a suggestion, all you’d have to do is simply merge the WCT with the QT’s existing 10,000 series.
Think about it Dirk, in the first week of competition we’d see 112 QS surfers competing in four-man heats, until whittled down to a field of 24, like proven Trials events from previous years. The second week, another swell, you bring on the WCT’s top 20, plus your four injury and wild card surfers. So now you have 24 of the world’s best taking on the 24 QS surfers. A dozen four-man heats with first and second progressing leaves us with 24. Four-man heats are more exciting to watch, if you haven’t noticed already. There is double the action and very little goes to waste. These remaining 24 combatants then contest eight three man heats, with first and second still progressing, until 16 surfers remain, same as the current QS format.
Then, man-on-man competition until the winner is proclaimed. That’s two weeks to run an entire comp.
Do that at ten of the best locations and there’s your new world champion from a more interesting field.
Not only would this merged format mean less of your money being spent, it would also revitalize the world title race. Fans would get to see more passionate young surfers taking on the world’s top 20. Emerging young guns we have just witnessed this campaign in Europe, like Brazil’s Sam Pupo, South Africa’s Matthew McGillivray and Adin Masencamp, Aussies Chris Zaffis, Morgan Cibilic, Jacob Willcox, USA’s Jake Marshall and Hawaii’s Josh Moniz, to name a few, all deserve a faster route to earn more money and pit themselves against the elite.
As for the women’s tour, cast them adrift I say, but in a nice way.
Hand that tour over to your wife. Let Natasha, Sophie and their friends take control of the women’s tour and see what they can really do with it. Let the women compete at different locations in waves that suit them better, with equal pay, new sponsors and all.
(Editor’s note: Wayne Murphy is a former ASP judge from Western Australia. He is the co-author of Ian Cairns’ epic 340,000 word, two-volume biography, Kanga: The Trial and Triumphs of Ian Cairns. Wayne now lives in Ireland. “That fierce southern sun with its baking heat would have killed me if I stayed living in West Oz any longer,” he told Tracks magazine in 2014.)
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Andy Irons was fun to watch – power, spontaneity & relaxed all at the same time!
Slater is amazing – yet anyone in their 40’s looks different surfing shortboards…
Surfing is a lifestyle & connection with Mother Nature – competitions are too often just plain boring…waiting & waiting & waiting – like baseball & golf!
Much like surfing itself – yet it just takes 1 killer wave to make you want to go back – again & again & again!
Yes Acriter, top 16 and trials also saves time and money. Then put them in better surf. Have different guest commentators at each event to freshen the panel too. Former pros, local legends etc. These mixed with existing commentary panel could work well I think. Cheers.
You had me until you talked about ditching the WCT and combining it with the MQS 10,000
I believe the commentary has got worse as the seasons progressed with the ‘Positive Vibe Warrior’ style killing it for me.
I am sure Paul Evans and Gigs Cilliers would bore you senseless if they commentated every comp. I think pre-WSL shows variety is key. Pre-WSL when each surf brand ran their own surf comp with own commentary team was cool. Jake Patto, Occy, Dave Wassel, etc. Just bring in guest commentators each comp and bring the surfers into the booth more often. For example, Kelly is good in the booth. Guys like Occy, Dorian, whoever, as guest commentators.
Fore sure, way to go.
The argument “core surfers want shorter contests” baffles me. I understand why people in the surf Industry like surf journalists want shorter contests (less tedious work to keep up with) and I get why non endemic viewers who might get really into a contest or or two a year would unconsciously be attracted to a shorter format. But core surfers supposedly wanting less surfing in contests doesn’t fly with me. I want the bottom 20 surfers on tour to be their so the top 10 have someone to take down. I want the back half of the tour there so guys like Italo, JJF, and Medina can surf more heats. I want long surf contests like I want new spin offs of Game of Thrones. I don’t care if people think the last season was crap, nothing was going to live up to all those over inflated expectations anyway. Bad heats make the good heats even better in contrast. Anyway, I’m not buying the “core surfers want shorter contests” argument, but I’ll definitely back the argument “core surfers love to complain”.
I think 16 is the better number. Man on man elimination from heat 1. Much shorter events in better conditions but the money they’d save they could have an extra 2-3 stops on tour. Add Fiji, Jaws and somewhere else.
Just fucken hold the comps when the waves are pumping, that would solve all the bitching. Shit waves = no comp., if the waves don’t get good enough in the waiting period then just split the points and move on, or extend it to get good waves. I just watched a heat (or a few minutes of it) in the France comp. in waves not even I would paddle out in, and I surf shit waves all the time. Shit waves are for guys like me, the best in the world deserve a proper canvas when careers and prizemoney and core support is on the line. And just fuck off the losers round, you lose you lose, it’s competition, you lost go home. Next time don’t lose. Like life.
Good points Skeeper. Agree.
wrong thread
lets roll out Hatchett and that old Seppo bloke that stuffed weed up his bum so they could get blazed
Concur with your contention that there are too many on the WCT but a two week event combining WQS wouldn’t work for many reasons….who wants all those frothers in their local line up is one good reason s
…..back to the drawing board on that one.
Also agree that the WCT commentary is mostly innane and bland but don’t agree that old mumbleton Binns would improve things.
Cut the women loose yes!
Anyway Moleman have a Guiness for your old mates at Point Bamboo Flute.
Yeah Jim, just testing a few ideas. But you are right – all them additional frothers at one place is deffo a turn-off for many a keen local surfer, especially for the Lovers Rock and beyond crew who have seen and put up with heaps. I see the old Bamboo Flute is thriving in good hands these days with Arch’s gang. Never mind the carrot juice. I will enjoy a pint of the dark stuff you mention instead. Slainte!
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The core will never be happy! We’re anti-establishment, it’s in our blood, it’s why we surf. Ziff is probably right to give up trying to please us. I can’t believe I just read an article stating how much better the QS is over the CT and that more surfers and longer event windows would be cool to watch. what’s worse is it got published! Are Derek and Chas on holidays?
“Are you growing concerned that your huge war chest is becoming noticeably more depleted? As El Supremo will you be waving a white flag”. Haha funny — how many billions does Dirk have? –A lot. He’s barely made a scratch in the surface of it and looks like he’s in it for the ‘looonnng haul’– definitely up through the Big O.
I think they see the Olyms. as their big ‘window of opportunity’ to reach the landlocked masses– expect to see them throw the whole kabuddle at it and at advertising as the big O. approaches. Will the masses bite– will they dig watching dudes do floaters and getting tubed while they have no idea what riding a wave feels like. Time will tell. Without them, ( the inland masses), it seems the Wsl can not turn a profit.
PS. No matter how super cool or groovy a new tour format may seem to some, without the inland masses tuning in, the Wsl won’t have enough numbers to pull in big advertising dollars to keep it self sustained–with out handouts from Dirk…….wait–am I on the right website—Ben got me all confused…….
Maybe you are right Sam. I’d really like to know what sort of conversations Dirk Ziff and ISA chief Fernando Aguerre have had on Olympic matters, and surfing’s future. Reading some leaked documents, or some good investigative reporting, would be nice…
put a call in to benny boy he knows everyting. Hi ben, miss ya
Yeah LIH, that’s a very good idea. Ben doing investigative reporting on the WSL/ISA relationship, future of pro surfing etc could be redemptive and revealing.
“with out handouts from Dirk.”
Don’t worry about DZ. He inherited a fortune. He spent a decade making a fool of himself trying to run a private equity firm on wall street. You can show up on wall street and throw your inheritance around and people will pay attention. That is unfortunately apparently true in surf, too. Have some sympathy….the man needs friends for hire and things to waste time and money on.
Have the blob tour with best 20 guys, or whatever number, as highlight events.
Any way you slice it, events will be long. Other than blob, where you can know itll be good.
A merge of ct and qs sounds good, but there will always be conflicts, in time, condition, invites. Most probably for the best, ish.
Good commentary, well made highlights, with a full buzzer to buzzer replay available for transparency for all events.
Shit, maybe more team structure with training camps, trainers, rehab, science, nutrition.
Surfers have always wanted to go watch guys shred, so fucking help them do it, and go from there. Bullshit to losing to conditions
Blob highlight events, nice one Crabgrass. On the money, and the pulse! Old Polynesia would most probably approve too.
The Ziff has no clothes!
Boonga and Binns in. Gigs the hell out, please. For my taste, at least.
Yeah Mads, Boonga, AKA Mark Clift, is one of the best commentators out there for sure. Witty and relaxed, yet very professional, and doesn’t miss a beat. Surfers all like and respect him too, which is good for interviews etc.
Sharp as a tack. Dry wit.
sri lanka one was pretty good too
I like the idea, but.. how many is too many competitors? Maybe just merge the dream into the 10,000 QS and have a dozen of the top ranked (as of the swell alert) fuckers battling it out at actual dream spots using the strike mission vibe. Indo x 3, Chopes, Pipe, Cloudbreak, J-Bay, maybe even Goldy if it’s during a cyclone. Ditch the rest, let the QS go to Brazil, Oz & USA for ” fan/beach engagement”. Leader board for each of the strikes, no fucken heats, crowd judge or something.. have that, combined with the QS tally = a WC and rankings somehow.
Women on a separate but equal tour is a good idea too, maybe have top 6 women at the strikes mishy’s?
Yeah WP, there are loads of good ideas like yours out there. Going to be interesting to see how it all pans out, for pro surf fans anyway. Cheers.
Let me get this right – you want more surfers in an event that is already too long and riddled with dead wood?!
No Rick. Same amount of competitors as existing QS 10,000 series comps. The world’s top 24 would be part of the field. They’d compete against the best 24 remaining QS surfers towards the end of the comp. Number of competitors could of course be shortened. It is just an idea to re-introduce some sort of Trials comp before each WCT event, to give deserving QS surfers a crack at the world’s best, instead of the same old lower ranked surfers making up the numbers. .
I guess watching strider slowly turn into an Egyptian mummy from sitting in the water for two weeks might interest me.
He lost me at how good the qs is to watch
Who publishes this rubbish?
My comment, or the qs?
I can’t remember
Not a pro surf fan, eh Superworm. No bother, each to their own. Cheers.
Hi Wayne,
No I’m not. They lost me.
Yeah Superworm, I get ya. They lost a few of their own true believers and warriors too. Sad. Lots of good ideas out there from other people the WSL could consider then implement to improve its event format and presentation. But siege mentality and an open drawbridge don’t go well together.
Too much MLB, not enough NBL