“Those guys are multi-multi-millionaires, billionaires, so this has nothing to do with not coming to Kauai."
Yesterday, it was reported the Hawaiian surf legend and noted enforcer Kamalei Alexander’s had issued an ominous warning to foilboarders using the Nā Pali coast as the backdrop to photos, their narcissism pushing house prices into the stratosphere, locals forced out of homes etc.
The warning was an apparent swipe at the world’s fifth-richest man and founder of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg who owns 1300 acres on the island, and who, along with guy-pal Kai Lenny, has made the sixteen-mile stretch on Kauai’s north-west coast a regular setting for their foiling adventures.
Read, “World’s fifth-richest man Mark Zuckerberg caught enjoying e-foil life with mystery woman off his 1300 acre Kauai plot; accused of ‘colonising’ the island!” and “In extremely controversial move, Facebook founder and billionaire Mark Zuckerberg emerges from quarantine donning ‘white-face’ on an electric foil!” and “Watch: Facebook founder, CEO, fifth-richest person in the world Mark Zuckerberg posts humblebrag video e-foiling in Hawaii, shouts out bestie Kai Lenny!”
Today, Kamalei, younger brother of Kala, and a peer of Andy and Bruce Irons, a shredder from two-to-twenty feet, has appeared to double-down on the threat while clarifying his position on visitors to the island.
Some commenters, it seems, had taken his initial post as an anti-visitor screed.
Wrote one, “You made your mark exploiting the islands beauty now want to keep others out.. it’s amazing how many people I see in your thread saying assault is justified to protect a surf break for the locals… surf culture becoming toxic because of this exclusive garbage.. I grew up 5 min from silver strand and got in numerous fights because locals jump anyone who they deem unworth of ‘their break’ great culture to spread.. super aloha.”
“Pertaining to my post the other day. If you guys take your ego and your pride or whatever the fuck you’re drinking out of what I said, and listen to what I… said… was that with cases like Nā Pali, guys that are posting the videos of them foiling down there.
“Do they need to do that?
“Last time I checked, those guys are multi-multi-millionaires, if not billionaires, so this has nothing to do with not coming to Kauai. My mom is from Detroit, Michigan. I don’t blame a motherfucking soul for moving here. Not one.
“It’s just, do you need to sell those drugs? If you do, then you fucking sell drugs. But if you don’t, then you don’t.”
He has a point.
One of the great miracles of America, of the world, is the North Shore of Oahu’s ability to retain its vestige of country, fending off unbelievable developer pressure, with all its money and political muscle, thanks to what y’might call a sharp localism.
I don’t think it’s a bad thing to loose the hounds on Kauai.
Blessed are not the meek, despite what Matt might’ve said in the Gospels, for they won’t inherit a damn thing.
The great landowners are always going to be the Zucks, the Ziffs and so on.
Or am I wrong?
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One mans gentrification is another mans progress.
I dont mean to sound insensitive, but the only people against gentrification are those that dont own property and increase their net worth with it. Its just a term used to describe the demand for an area, and there are many variables. Take detroit for example. Detroit has been trying to make a comeback for a number of years. As money comes in to clean up the city and open businesses/services etc, the desirability goes up and thus demand for a limited supply of real estate goes up. Gentrification is just supply/demand economics. To be against gentrification is to be against progress essentially, or to be a socialist. Then youre talking about central planning on removing choice, youre no longer in a free market.
If folks would work on a budget and save up, forego things like your starbucks pumpkin spice latte in the morning, stop spending a bill at the bar trying to hook up tourists every friday/saturday night, then eventually they too could benefit from the gentrification process. Those that stand still in a capitalist society eventually get left behind.
Why is it shiity to use Zuck as an starting point to talk Hawaiian land issues.? Land barons go back in history on Kauai. Rices, Knudsen’s, Robinsons. However, those families were established during the Monarchy Era. A different time. Today democratic values of American capitalism clash directly with Hawaiian cultural values. So, Americans are at an advantage when purchasing a home or farm here in Bawaii
Using this island land reform issue to make a lame comment about a world class shaper, one of the most well read surfers on the planet , who lived in the generation of the late 60s and 70s. To make a Reagan era No DrugsComment, this is why I rarely go to this page. It’s full of negative comments, thought of as witty. Return to the thread of Kamaleis concern
Why do locals always say the rich is pushing the $$ so high that locals cany afford no longer. Well, is t it the choice of the local seller not to sell at a high $$ and or at their discretion? It’s because they can sucker an outsider to pay high $$ for their land/home for greed which drives pprices and out locals.
Good point, a lot of ire being directed at buyers, while sellers sail off into the sunset with a grin on their faces. Good for them btw. Im all for voluntary free market transactions.
This guy isn’t in the position to talk about this… He’s not Hawaiian, not really local, has no true authority beyond what he gives himself. The story has “manufactured” written all over it.
I stand w Kamalei. You have every right to blast these donkeys. I’m born and raised Oahu- beautiful island and no wonder it is so crowded. Kauai is amazing beyond compare- a magnet- Besides the idiot Kauai mayor, the people are brave humble warriors who will not hesitate to proclaim truth to a globalist ghoul like Z.
there’s and old hawaiian saying: whites no surf here.
Can olive skinned people surf there, I’m half Italian and black Irish. Not white enough to be excepted by kkk but not dark enough to be exceped by Latin gangs. So would i be able to surf this segregated beach? I’m having a bit of an identity crisis over this whole race thing. Am I what I think I am or am i what u think i am? I’d like us all to just be humans. Peace and love
Exactly. I hate Zuck as much as the next guy, but gimme a break. No one owns the water. Money talks. Always has. This broke fool needs to deal with life.
there’s and old RACIST saying: whites no surf here.
FIFY
Kameo Alexander
Hard to find a better testimony to our need for Gods grace than the surf scene in Hawaii.
The heart of our problems here is that haoles come and then try to make it better instead of realizing why they came here in the first place. The Zucks of the world really thing that we are too dump to do for ourselves what we need to do so they think they are helping. Like the best movie of all time taught us “mo beddah you go home” and “leave our island and our local girls alone”. Kamalei is always willing to speak his mind and ask hard questions. He ok with ruffling a few feathers to work out some truth. I believe that the view that the meek loose and the powerful win just because they own more is totally false. Martin Luther King, Gondi, Mother Teresa and the like have more power in their legacy and are quoted very much more often then the likes of the captains of industry and trust fund babies that own most of our private land. When a Bill Gates is gone what will he have inherited? Just dirt and worms like the rest.
“too dump?” Naw. you’re not dump at all.
Gondi.
“loose” = “lose”
And Bill Gates will leave behind a lot of money and a thriving company and billions of dollars dedicated to helping Africa and those in need.
And hopefully his money will launch TerraPower and give the world safe nuclear.
That’s a lot more than dirt and worms.
That’s immortality.
Right, it’s all haoles fault……
I’m assuming that you don’t know what a haole is. If you are not Kanaka you are haole. I’m haole. Born here but not Hawaiian. The indigenous people of Hawai’i are definitely not at fault for the illegal over throw of their government and queen and the following industrialization of their land making it too expensive for them to own a home and raise their families. I’m not talking about race I’m talking about mentally. Everyone should be able to enjoy all of the beauty of the earth but to move in and push the people from that land out as they change the place to be more like where they came from is wrong.
I know exactly what a haole is. To old real hawaiians, a haole was anyone who wasnt a hawaiian. To the younger generations, it just refers to white people. Thus it is now a racist term. I despise it, because it is rarely if ever used in a way that isnt derogatory toward caucasian people.
Well I hope it makes you feel better knowing that I call anyone that is not Kanaka a haole no matter what color their skin. My kids included. It is important to know and acknowledge who’s land this is and how it and it’s people should be respected. Also I believe our thin skin getting butt hurt from words that describe a person is the start of division. We are all humans with subtle differences that make us special but all in all we have so much in common. That is where we should find unity and community. Aloha haole.
I should clarify. Its not so much the word itself that hurts me. Its the hypocrisy of others who call white people racists when they dont know anything about us but our skin color, while ignorantly flinging around the term haole. Not realizing that THEY are the ones practicing bigotry.
Agreed. We should make judgments based on character not on color but at the same time not pretend that there is no color. We are all unique and special and that can be celebrated with out only seeing our differences. United we stand, divided we fall. An idiot that looks the same as me is just and idiot. A friend that looks different than me can be family. Aloha
There are few things boil my blood like the rich cunt fuckery of land ownership.
This is thing, it’s playing out in lineups and surf spots.
Richer you are better wave you can afford to live near.
Look at Sydney ffs. Due to the covid lockdown if you live 5k away from the beach you can’t surf!
Surfers are are all doctors and dentist nowadays and the standard of surfing has gone down no matter how much they spend on coaching and quivers and real estate.
They are kooks buying in.
Funny when you put it like that, and you’re absolutely right.
I was at a downhill mountainbiking comp all weekend. If you want to see sheer entitlement and snobbery go to one of those! But I suppose if you’re giving teenagers toys that cost £10k that’s what you get.
I went away from it thanking fuck surfing isn’t so elitist and success isn’t predicated on how much money you have, but in light of what you’re saying I realise I’m probably wrong.
DR clearly hasn’t been up to NS in a while. There’s more Teslas than Tacomas these days.
Don’t tell them that 80 percent of Helcos grid power comes from fossil fuels. Might ruin their virtue signaling caste mobiles.
Fossil fuel power plants are way more efficient than vehicle internal combustion engines — even coal plants. So even if the grid were 100% fossil fuel, battery electric cars still make sense — but the grids aren’t 100% hydrocarbon-powered, and they’ll add more renewable power generation over time.
I hear the sentiment, but that argument doesn’t work.
I could bring up carbon neutral biofuels being developed the dirty ness of batteries and new vehicle manufacture but it’s a tired argument.
It works in the sense that the cars are marketed as green, its deceptive. More of a grey-green lol. How about the effect on the environment of the mining of toxic lithium for the batteries? Did you factor that into your efficiency number? A lot of fossil fuels are burnt up in the mining process. What about all these lithium batteries that need replacing after so many miles? How efficient is the recycling process? How much fossil fuels are burned for the energy needed to recycle them?
Got to get him on dirty water
Thucydides said it better:
“The stong do what they will and the weak suffer what they must”
Kamalei should have stayed at school.
Revenge of the nerds is what’s happening. Public school in Hawaii doesn’t help much.
AI is taking notes.
Love ya babe.
The guy is being a real ASS (aloha super spreader)
Makes me think of “The life of Brian”
“What did he say??? Blessed are the meek??? Aww that’s nice innit, glad their getting something they’re having a hell of a time”
Stop picking your nose!
“I think he said, blessed are the Cheesemakers”
“What’s so special about the Cheesemakers?”
“Well obviously it’s not supposed to be taken literally, it refers to any manufacturer of diary products”
Ahhh the old Instagram wisdom, eh. You gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah man, sell those drugs to kids and destroy thousands of lives along the way. As long as you takin’ care of your ohana, hey bra? Keep on sellin’ dem drugs, bra. The same ones that killed a famous Kauai native, no?
You hit the proverbial nail on the head, DR. Jesus claimed that the meek shall inherit the earth. Wrong. The strong shall inherit the earth. The meek shall inherit the yoke.
Shit–no one in the US (flags! Wave em!) gives a shit about Jesus. You don’t see anyone heading into the banks and flipping over tables…and if Jesus sacrificed his own body for the redemption of humanity (i.e. the health of community), you sure as fuck don’t see most Christians in the US right now even willing to wear a mask to show their care for their neighbor. Seems the whole part of the ultimate sacrifice (health and comfort of self, to save everyone else) doesn’t mean a thing to most self-professed Christians. Fallen, indeed.
They probably think giving away money to televangelists fills that void for them.
Praise Covid!!
They’re a bit slow, still taking Faucis initial advice.
Psst, your bigotry is showing.
Thanks, Barney.
You’re welcome donut.
I think jebus was referring to when they die and go to heaven, then they’ll get some nice stuff.
Virgins!!!
If Allah wills it.
Pretty sure he will will it
Same vibe, I guess they can just (insert) whatever they’d like to be granted by their choice of Sky Wizard. The meek want the Earth, the jihadis want the Virgins and so on.
I’d prefer the experienced
Invite him to pen an article for BG, DR. With LT as respondent. Be some of the best surf journalism of the year so far, easy.