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Great White shark myths
"A lot of people say, how far out to shore was the lady swimming? That means nothing. White sharks will come in incredibly close."

“They Will Attack in One Foot of Water” Great White shark myths exploded 

"The amount of Great Whites is incredible. People are gonna hide from it and say it's not. It is."

The Newcastle-based shark fisherman Joel Nancarrow, whom you’ve come to know and possibly love over the past six months on these pages, just dropped a vid that explains more about Great White behaviour than the previous thirty years of of expert papers.

Standing ankle-deep on a Newy beach, a bait of mullet wrapped around his wrist, Nancarrow watches as a Great White shark arch its back clear out of the water to grab it. 

On his social media pages, he posts footage that marine authorities would prefer stayed private: Great Whites feeding in crystal-clear water, in broad daylight, metres from crowded beaches near Redhead and Blacksmiths.

“The amount of Great Whites is incredible,” he says. “People are gonna hide from it and say it’s not. It is.”

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His central, disquieting argument is this: almost everything the public has been told about Great White shark behaviour is wrong. Distance from shore is irrelevant. Water clarity is irrelevant. Time of day is largely irrelevant.

“All the stuff that they tell you about sharks goes out the window when it comes to these guys,” he says.

He is particularly scathing about Shark Smart, the government-backed public education program.

“Shark Smart is dangerous,” he says flatly. “All the crap Shark Smart go on with is gonna get – has and is gonna get – more people killed. They’ve got no idea what they’re talking about. They’re reading books.”

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The myths he wants demolished are specific.

When a swimmer is taken close to shore, the immediate public question is always: how far out was she?

Nancarrow calls that the wrong question entirely.

“A lot of people say, how far out to shore was the lady swimming? That means nothing. White sharks will come in incredibly close.”

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His footage, shot at local beaches, shows a Great White in water so shallow its back breaks the surface.

“That’s ankle-deep water,” he says. “And it’s got its back out to grab hold of that bait.”

He has also observed a consistent behavioural pattern that he says has predictive value.

“On days like that, when the wind is westerly and it’s dead flat, they will always sit behind the furthest wave out, doesn’t matter whether it’s a foot off shore or 300 feet. That’s where they’ll be.”

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Flat, calm conditions, in other words, are not the benign invitation to swim that most people treat them as. They are, by Nancarrow’s reckoning, a warning.

“Whenever it’s flat and smooth, you’re at a greater risk of Great White shark attack, and that is a guarantee.”

The dirty-water myth irritates him particularly.

Conventional wisdom holds that murky, churned-up water is the danger zone, the terrain where a shark might mistake a swimmer for a seal.

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“Rain, dirty water, that’s all bullshit with these,” he says. “These things are in crystal-clear waters. They’ll be in a foot of water. They’ll feed aggressively any time of the day.”

There is one behavioural observation Nancarrow offers that is, if anything, more unsettling than the rest. Great whites, he says, don’t typically kill on first contact.

“As you watch, they grab and swim before they eat. That’s why a lot of people get let go.”

He pauses.

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“Even this one. That’s a big fish, doesn’t eat it straight away. They always swim with it a bit before they’ll eat it.”

He is also tracking the spread of tiger sharks along the NSW coast, which he describes as “a bit concerning,” though he adds with dark pragmatism: “We can actually get rid of them, so that’ll be right.”

Nancarrow is not, by his own account, a fear-monger.

He says he usually leaves the Great White sharks alone, that he doesn’t target them, that the footage accumulates almost incidentally while he’s “mucking around with the camera.”

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But he is adamant that silence is no longer responsible.

“It is at that time now,” he says. “People need to know the truth.”

“If you want to listen, you listen. If you don’t, you don’t. But those that need to will.”

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paulo de tarso

Oh!!! Look out!
Lions!
At the Savannah!!! By the side of the road!!!
They are all around here!!!
Be careful!!!

Tom House

Pretty amazing to look around at the world today, and decide it’s books and experts that are the problem, not reactionaries and vibes-based social media reasoning.

Barnycle

The books and the experts aren’t protecting the Aussies at the moment.

Sometimes you have to release the hounds to protect you from the barbarians. Knowledge and scholarship is great, but it didn’t prevent us from getting a Trump, Orban, Xi or Putin. We needed protection a generation ago by the people who could have prevented this shit and instead we got “debate”. Now it’s all fuecked.

Release the hounds. The sharks have proven that they bounce back in no time at all.

Michael Flatlately

Or, sharks herd smaller fish close into shore to cut-off an avenue of escape, but with larger, land-capable prey like seals (or humans), they’ll keep between it and the shore.

justiceminister

The great white is our friend. Nurtered and correctly trained can be one solution to the ills of the world

Hippy

Now Jack Off is giving trolling advice by being a fucking pussy

That’ll show your “advisories “

It’s such an edgy strategy, blocking

Deleting comments is very strategic too

Mike

I want one to train and clear the lineup before I go surf.

Kama'aina

For your safety please only surf, swim, and party in pools. Gone are the days off surfline telling us when to shred. Stay safe. Don’t ever come back to the beach.

Phil's Wart

Good morning ! Yew! Coffee! Still firing on all south facing shores! 8-12ish occasional 15ftr! Outties! ..p.s. don’t let some ones opinion chase you out brah. Yew! Keep frothing ! Outties! Oh..I’ve seen GWs rip seals off rocks back home in Santa Cruz county. HEA-VYYYY?

@TheRealJackMeoff
@TheRealJackMeoff

To all of you out there who want to up your trolling game here is a hot tip.
If someone is annoying and lame and up themselves, instead of snapping and going off on them and bringing down the rest of the group with negativity, simply block them.
They will be so butthurt by this that the ensuing cry will bring a little ray of sunshine into your cloudy day.
Nothing better than telling someone to go fuck themselves without actually saying anything.
Just let go of the stupid norms of what is and isn’t cool and a whole new world of passive aggressive possibilities will open up for you.
But once you do this, best to not mention names and just pretend they don’t exist.
Once you start realizing that getting angry is pointless, it is easier not to care.
Once again Nihilism for the win.
Hope everyone is having a great day!

@TheRealJackMeoff

And now a few words of inspiration from a recently departed master poet, who in my eyes put out the kind of meaningful lyrics that have stood the test of time….

Got no religion, don’t need no friends.
Got all I want and I don’t need to pretend.
Don’t try and reach me cause I’ll tear up your mind.
I’ve seen the future and I left it behind.

@TheRealJackMeoff

And here is another.
I really miss that guy…..

Nobody ever told me I found out for myself.
You gotta believe in foolish miracles.
It’s not how you play the game it’s if you win or lose…
You can choose.
Don’t confuse.
Win or lose.
It’s up to you!!!

Strayan Cunt

Sorry Jack, love ya bruz but blocking people anywhere is beyond gay but especially on a surf forum. I thought you Seppos were into freedom of speech mate?

@TheRealJackMeoff

There are two kinds of people in this world mate, people boxed in with rigid parameters, and people who push the envelopes of said box.
I get it, you are a chippie and I am, or was, a sparky.
In your world everything must be plumb, level, and square, in my world there are endless ways to skin the cat.
You can take what you want from my hot tips, but as evidenced above you can see it works.
As far as freedom of speech goes anyone is free to say whatever they want, and I am free to tune it out.
What is funny to me is someone getting mad cause they have to log out of disqus to see my insane in the membrane babble….hope you got a few waves this morning.

Strayan Cunt

Hahaha. Na don’t have the time today bruz, another big day on site is calling

@TheRealJackMeoff

Cheers mate, just remember to point the nail gun away from ya….

Michael Flatlately

Which of the two groups do you think would be the ones that go through the avocado bin squeezing to check for ripeness? I’m with the others.

@TheRealJackMeoff

I’ve seen enough avocados to know which ones are which.

Michael Flatlately

No no, it’s that I see the world as two groups of people also, just as squeezers and those who know / take a chance / don’t want to ruin shit for others. I have no opinion on your muting.

@TheRealJackMeoff

I just get them green and wait for them to ripen.

Michael Flatlately

Brothers in avos

Hippy

3 Top Signs you are Gay

1. You love to suck cock

2. You engage in anal sex with men ( debateable if top is more gay, your call)

3. You block people on an opinion blog

Lookin at you Jack off

Tom House

Who’s “they”? Is he arguing with rumors?

Hippy

An Ol Trump trick

Ambiguity proving opinion requires no verification

Maxabillions

Derek, as a journalist, do you think you applied a good amount of journalistic rigour to the claim that Newcastle-based shark fisherman Joel Nancarrow just dropped a vid that explains more about Great White behaviour than the previous thirty years of of expert papers?

Phil's Wart

I’ll wait….

Rinsed Corn

Kinda.
Experts keep telling us they are incredibly smart but they just keep mistaking us for seals. My 1 year old child can tell the difference between a the silhouette of a seal and a human.
Are the swimming around majestically like the experts tell us or are they dumb cunts like the local crack head who has fried his brain and now walks around the streets thinking he is a coke bottle?
Have you ever seen one attack a boat motor? Weird thing to do for something so smart.
This fisherman could have told us they swim in salt water and he’s doing a better job than most academics who need this things to be protected in order to keep getting government grants to study them

deeks

https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
I’m a coke bottle?
I’m a coke bottle!!

notsurfingtoday

Who cares about sharks when you have to worry about buying/not buying spacex stock.
Tech bros must be having uncontrollable hard-ons with this plus elon the trillion plus all the trump birthday war talk and ufc manosphere circle jerk.

It’s such a great time to be an asshole.

Barnycle
@TheRealJackMeoff
channelbottom

The (one) problem with this IPO is the fact that large index funds are ‘mechanically obligated’ to buy the stock, thus inflating it further when the company is a Frankenstein’s monster of bullshit and fraud.

7dollarsurfboard

Sharks must also be waking up to the idea that breakfast isn’t that important anymore

Michael Flatlately

A high in fibreglass diet for healthy teeth and gums

Chief Hot stuff
Strayan Cunt

I love the idea of a voted for cunt of the week or month on here but the problem is the Strayans would be frothing on taking it out and the seppos would be devo to win it haha

Michael Flatlately

Is the joke that he came across as more of a cunt than his suggested cunt?

Chief Hot stuff

Good observation!!

Travis Edgar

An elder legend I surf with once asked me…”How can you tell if there are sharks around?”… I looked at him perplexed… He said as he took a sip of ocean water…”If it tastes salty, there around”

snapper

Alan Cleland ripped off on the men’s side…Gabriela Bryan absolutely ripped off on the women’s side🧐

mike m

Wetsuits that can puff, run with it Kelly, keep the selling price under 10k 25k…stock sharks at Lemoore, sell more puffsuits!
https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

Michael Flatlately

Tailpads that can shoot ink

Fartblossom

The “experts” have sorely underestimated the shark population numbers.

We’re finding that out thanks to drone and cellphone footage helping expose the reality of their numbers…and then realize we’re only counting what we can see at the very surface.

Blowin

“…. people are being killed or injured by large sharks in Australia on a weekly basis.”

John Seaton Callahan steadfastly refusing to give up the BG Ludicrous comment of the week award.

Jack John Johnson

4 Days til Brazil.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

shit

Jack John Johnson
JSC

O Brasil domina o surfe, mas não teve um desempenho tão bom contra Marrocos.

A Seleção precisa melhorar ao longo do torneio!

Strayan Cunt

This obviously saddens me but I’m gunna hold my hands up and say fucking good onyas fellas and it is a hunner % well deserved. Talent will only you get so far and your heart and hard work gets you the rest of the way and these cunts have it in spades.

Ethan has all the talent in the world, is my favourite surfer to watch in the world but when it comes to a heat in average waves you can just see the difference in desire to him and the Brazzos. I can just see him hovering around the top 3 for another 5 years, investing his money well and retiring to North Straddy barely to be heard from again.

The very thing that made us the most successful surfing nation on the planet was that inner mongrel that ensured we bowed down to no cunt and never gave up but those days have passed us by and its sad but obvious to see. Can you imagine a surfer with the talent of Ethan and the fierce beating heart of a Hog who would just leave absolutely nothing out there during a heat? I am deflated boys!!

JSC

Yep – determination and perseverance beats talent, every time.

Jack John Johnson

Go Luana!

deeks
Michael Flatlately

Enhance… enhance… you got anything a touch higher definition Deeker?

deeks

Nah sorry man. If ya hit the image it comes up a bit more focused. Pissed last night

Hippy

Need a full tool bag and be willing to use it

Michael Flatlately

I reckon it was Hedgy the Hog that killed it. All the flag business and chairing the lads. Aus was top of the draw when you all hated each other. Get some MP back in yas, cunce.

Tom House

Thankfully, I don’t live in the OC or San Diego or Florida, so my exposure to patriot surfers is minimal, but I don’t know a single American surfer who has ever cared about the nationality of the WSL champ.

Strayan Cunt

You don’t know one seppo who would be pumped if MC Friff or Cole Tate won the world title? Thats fucking mental but I suppose at least they won’t be disappointed! Whole area round here went fucking mental when Joel and Mick won theirs and If Ethan manages it I will be going on the full bender haha

Tom House

To be fair, most hardcore surfers I know only barely pay attention to pro surfing. But still our faves aren’t based on their nationality but how they surf.

Brutus

ah…..the Brazilians have taken the old Australian competitive spirit…..they travel/surf/get coached together…community on tour…just like the Aussies were

Story; was in Rockfood with Bruce Irons/Mick Campbell and others many years ago, Mick had just had an altercation with Andy…and also a couple of young Aussies had been set on by some older French crew……so Mick and a couple of us jumped into my big V8 Merc….and sorted out the French boys who were from Marseille…….we looked after out own…

Bruce made a comment about the Aussie camaraderie and if Andy saw Bruce on the ground, he’s probably run in and sink the boot into me….he was in awe of the Aussie pro surf community we always had each others backs.

Now it’s the Brazilians , as Australia has been polluted by money/Surfing Australias programs/ so now all the Aussie pros have coaches/PA’s and their respective entourages…….united we stand divided we fall…..if and when, we admit the problem in Australia’s current format in coaching surfers etc…….we can work on solutions …but the hierarchy/bureaucrats are dug in..it’s all about the gravy train!

Strayan Cunt

Absolutely love it sir, from a not so distant time when men stood up for their own and actually acted like men haha

The Bitchy Crab

Nice time zone.

astro

Hahahahar – the worst for me. Sucks balls.
Past experiences will mean that I’ll likely not even bother with it at all.
You’re not gonna watch a beachy all night, D. You’re not fooling us, bro. Hahahahar

Jack John Johnson

That’s what she said.

Blowin

Pump pump pump air reverse claim!

Yeewwwww.

Maybe the relentless backwash and shipping-channel deep holes in the bank are gone? Maybe not.

Dogsnuts

Hahahahaha. Do they get the sick right option this time? Or is it the equivalent of the Box now?

Andy C

yay


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