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The holiest of old relics, Surfing World magazine with brave lil Tommy Caz on the cov.

Bad Boy surf journalist’s shock update on Aussie icon’s future 

World champ Shaun Tomson says, "Holy yes, Relic no. This mag is alive."

It has been a long nine months since Nick Carroll, the “bad boy” of legacy surfing journalism, was on these pages.

You’ll remember he, and his very talented photography sidekick Hannah Anderson, were stuck in the guts in a shock cull by wave forecasting website Surfline.

Carroll, who is sixty-six, had been named as Surfline’s Australian editor, a position that opened up after the surf forecasting giant bought Coastalwatch for one million dollars in 2019. 

Until he shifted to Surfline, Nick Carroll was a regular in BeachGrit’s comment section, his lightly hectoring older brother tone, often uncharacteristically candid, producing some of his best work. 

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Carroll’s purist approach to a sport he’d been immersed in for fifty years were clear in,

Nick Carroll: “Tom is generous with me, yet I’m rarely generous in return.”

Long read: Nick Carroll on the “crazy fucking ultra-marathon” Molokai-to-Oahu paddle race!

Nick Carroll: I’d surfed there a thousand times, yet today it felt like nowhere I’d her been. It felt like a place you could die!” 

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The reason for the disappearing of Carroll, along with his talented photography sidekick Hannah Anderson, were evident when Surfline started burying their work beneath layers of cams and weather reports.

Surfline, y’see, ain’t in the news biz, it’s in the cam and forecast biz so why not chip 150k or whatever off the wages bill?

After the cull, the pair pivoted to podcasting but it ain’t easy to cut through the noise.

And, now, and as announced by Sean Doherty, whom you all know and love, Nick and Hannah have become part owners of Surfing World magazine. 

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Doherty made the announcement yesterday.

Joining me as editors and owners at SW are Nick Carroll and Hannah Anderson. I’ve been working with both for years now on various projects – both are mad surf enthusiasts, both know their shit, both love Surfing World.

Nick Carroll first featured in Surfing World in the 1977 issue, ‘Magic School’ with his brother’s head on the cover, nose covered in white zinc. Nick is maybe the only person alive who’s edited more surf mags than me, and while Surfing World is just about the only mag in the world he hasn’t worked at, he refers to is as “the holy relic” of surf titles.

Hannah is a Bondi Anderson, surfing royalty, a photographer, filmmaker, writer and serial wave sharer (your’s, not her’s). She also becomes the first female editor and owner in Surfing World’s 63-year history (and I think its first Bondi editor/owner, god help us).

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Surfing World will still be published independently from my Yamba backyard shed, will still focus on making the best surf mags there’s ever been, but also do all sorts of cool new shit as well. We’re off and running already. Onwards and sideways, as they say.

Just wanna say a huge thanks to Jonny Frank, who’s living over in Europe with his family and leaving the mag after 30-odd years. Frank’s been with Surfing World since the ‘90s and worked with me as Creative Director since we took it over in 2020.

Much noise below the line including from Shaun Tomson who wrote, “Holy yes, Relic no. This mag is alive.”

Very good news, I would suggest, although the departure of the great Jon Frank, among the best in the game, is cause, I think, for a little pause.

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In his first public statement, Nick Carroll asked surfers to “keep an iconic brand alive and buy a sub! We promise never to run a cover shot of Tom Carroll again!!

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Hannah Anderson pointed out she was now the “first female/owner editor of Australia’s oldest surf publication” and added, “A pinch me moment in my career.”

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Nick Carroll

Hi Gila, I was responsible for editorial content around the world and the teams who were making it. I didn’t have a say in the product per se but my experience was that the product crew always paid attention if they got negative feedback about a featured spot. They might or might not pull it off the site but they always listened. I’m a bit bummed that you didn’t get some sort of response, but it wasn’t my deal.

Sit down to pee

I tried to listen to their podcast. It was insufferable. Only Shannon from the WSL has a more grating voice than her and Nick does those annoying fake laughs at everything he says.

Is it just me or do Australians get more annoying as you get older?

Strayan Cunt

I think its just that Seppos become even bigger sooky cunts as they get older

Sit down to pee

Yeah Seppos are cunts too

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

umm…..fairly sympathetically but did not omit detailing his sins.

@surfads

Yes but I’d prefer $250k a year, free Ments trips and test boards from every shaper

Panda's sack rash

Hey Nick if your writing about Clyde Aikau don’t include yourself in the story. I don’t want to read how you feel more at home in Hawaiin waters than you do in Australia, I don’t want to know that you and Clyde have more in common than anyone would realize.
Just write about Clyde Aikau you self absorbed cunt.

Nick Carroll

Thanks for the feedback Panda, I know that shit is a fine line, I just felt really affected by the whole situation and couldn’t find another way of telling the story. Hopefully Eleni and Myra made up for it a bit.

Tom House

Not that it matters, but I canceled my Surfline membership once I realized they’d cut editorial.

ricmatic

no mate, the kids know everything. if theyre not at your spot its cuz they dont want to be. No slight on your spots

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

they don’t know if it doesn’t go online.

ricmatic

the apps all have geo tracking now, no posting needed

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

some people don’t use apps and disable location tracking.

Rich Marx

People forget that Surfline put out a really good online media product in the mid 2000’s. Consistently being the first to publish photos of good days often keying people into when specific waves were good in the process.

In hindsight you kinda wonder what could have happened if they expanded the editorial side a little more.

NEGATRON

From what I see people just can’t shut up. I’ve learnt to deal with it by just paddling around and surfing like the out of town crew are not factored into the equation.

@TheRealJackMeoff

There’s out of towners round those parts?

@TheRealJackMeoff

Wait Dylan…never mind carry on

Stick man

What’s a magazine?

deeks

🤣
haha no it’s not made by trump cronies

@TheRealJackMeoff

It’s those things you see lying around on the lobby table at your doctor’s office.

Stick man

A table-oid!

snapper

It’s ChatGPT in reverse.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

v. astute comment.

Firelipe Torpedo

Totally agree Gila fuck all these cunts who say we gotta accept the times and nothing is sacred anymore. Dont shit where you eat and certainly don’t shit where I eat.

JSC

Stop blowing up secret spots!

Nonagon_Infinity

Sycophant World

John Wayne

Let’s be real. They probably paid very little or got paid to take the liabilities off Franks hand! It’s a sad life in print media these days. I really hope they can make a good fist of it. There are few examples of where print has stayed viable sadly. A core audience is required with no real hope of growth. More maintenance and stopping the inevitable reduction in subscribers. The world is against them. It’s now a cottage industry and that was what surfing was back in the day. I sincerely hope they can retain their core audience and continue to deliver a great product. Sean was brave man taking it on. It’s good to see others are keen to support him. And I do miss NC’s writing. As an owner let’s hope he becomes more unhinged.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Let’s be honest. The only people who read are those over 40, and our generation isn’t paying for enough subscriptions to keep the lights on, at least for much longer. For anyone under age 30, unless it’s on TikTok, it didn’t happen. Hopefully The Surfer’s Journal can hold on for another 20 years.

Michael Flatlately

Probably worth testing the waters again though, seeing as everyone is back on the subscription train, what with the Spotifys / Netflixes. I’d be wanting something with a bit of yesteryear’s spunk, though. Not that bland, nature mag, photo annual shit White Horses and the like were giving us in print’s death throes. But you’d probably end up needing more staff in the complaints team, than journos.

snapper

I gotta bunch of sick SW’s from 1975sh to 80’s somethin…so so fresh.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

Eagle Island my fav.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

Pretty sad old state of affairs for surf journalism if you have to throw in your own money as part owner to get a writing gig.

No biggie for Nick, he’d have heaps of super.

Not sure how wise for Hannah to throw her stake in.

Jonny went to Europe- whereabouts?

NEGATRON

I think currently anything of worth in the surf industry, peeps had to throw in their own coin.

@surfads

Was there ever a time it wasn’t a sad old state of affairs?

Genuine question.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

I heard back in the day it was wall to wall junkets in exchange for sycophantic profile pieces.
Surf industry money flowing like wine- all hearts opened etc etc.

Derek might know- I think he got the tail end of it.

The Bitchy Crab

Stab, 2004-2012, probs the last catchment of the rivers of surf industry gold. You’d walk out of a meeting with fifty gees for a bunch of ads reaching, effectively, maybe a thousand people. Glory days.

The Bitchy Crab

Mallorca, I think, Spanish ex-wife etc.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

Lots of pasty poms.

Nice climate.

NEGATRON

Somewhat dated take Gila.

Barrelled

I haven’t seen a Surfline map in about 35 years.

ricmatic

my kid will find the best waves, snow, skate, party, gig on his phone in under 5 seconds. Secrets are no longer

@TheRealJackMeoff

You pick me up on here Negs?
anyway the zone is goose cove tucked up in a fiord next to resolution island.
even though the waves on maps aren’t all time you can clearly see the setups and the overall pristine nature of the zone. Could see a boat trip with maybe a jet ski in tow to access the waves and land.
Sure it has been done but looks like an epic trip all the same.

NEGATRON

Yeah theres lo-key waves all though the sounds. More up from there though really. That bottom corner gets hammered with such small swell windows. Got a mate who used to jet ski from Milford to a few bays, till his ski broke down once and scared the shit out of him. Lots of nice, ever changing river bars, couple of points and reefs. But effort v rewards scales are well and truly on the effort side with tons of rain. Fly in/out surf camp at big bay.

Sellme fitzgobbins

Are there any Carrol stories we havent already heard?

JSC

I have a few –

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Write a book!

@TheRealJackMeoff

I got a TC semi adjacent experience to share.
Back in the day I used to look very much like, and a few would say even surf, like him, so much so I even got slapped with a nickname for it.
So anyway my first season on the North Shore I am riding a bike and pull up to Kammies store lot, as soon as I did the Moepono Brothers start yelling at me from the tables that used to be there by the laundromat.
“Hey Ha’ole!! Come ova hea!!!”
In the kind of tone that wasn’t like they were inviting you over for a beer.
I did what any smart Ha’ole would do, don’t look that way and pretend you didn’t hear anything, bail on the store mission and get the hell out of there.
This infuriated the boys, and I could hear them behind me snapping in disbelief that I just blew them off.
As I am getting away this van pulls up, the slider opens, and there is TC, face to face.
It was like looking in a mirror.
He takes one look at me and just loses it, laughing so hard he is almost falling over himself, the boys still snapping behind me.
I was too worried about the boys to sit around soaking it all in and just bailed without saying a word, stoked to not be taxed or beaten, but baffled at the same time. Back then the North Shore lived up to every bit of the hype.
Good times…

Sellme fitzgobbins

TC had most likely dropped in on one of da boys

NEGATRON

The last edition on SW before my sub expired was a fantastic piece on Davo by Derek Hynd. Why such a definitive full stop? because a surf forecast app did what one would imagine it would do?

Chief Hot stuff

I wonder where my book is?

NEGATRON

I think I saw him say its being released at the end of this month.

JSC

Release date for THE BOOK in the USA is 28 October – a bit later for the antipodes, you know shipping and that sort of thing.

After all, the First Fleet took eight months to sail from olde Englande to arrive at Farm Cove in Sydney 26 January 1788 with the first load of convicts –

John Wayne

So do you pay for any of these surf cam / forecast products? How would you feel if Dylan Graves came to your neck of the woods? Would you embrace him or quietly tell him he is not welcome? It’s weird how people want to embrace him. Short sighted fan boys.

NEGATRON

No, I just drive to the beach for my surf report.
He just came.
No hugs, but no hate either. I’m not 18 so no need to fanboy out even though I do enjoy his series.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

That Dave piece was pretty sweet- weird ending though- it just kind of stopped.

Strayan Cunt

Didn’t read a word of this article but may I ask yous all a question? Who is the best backhand surfer of all time? I love Occs attack at Bells, J Bay and so on but hes a massive cunt so is off my list. At the moment in my head it’s between Taj and Andy with massive shout outs to Julian Wilson and Owen Wright but that maybe my Strayan bias. Any thoughts gentlemen?

deeks

Wayne lynch for me. Biased view

Strayan Cunt

Great shout cunt. A little before my times but I have read the stories and seen some footage

deeks

Yeah these days all the guys you mentioned + bobby Martinez. Have to agree with chief too. Gabriel is 1st class

Chief Hot stuff

Medina

Strayan Cunt

Yeh fucking solid shout and absolutely love the cunt. I know he beat old big nose that year at Snapper but has he done well at Bells or J Bay? I honestly cant remember

Chief Hot stuff

Hes amazing!!

Mapski

His fade left to vert on his backhand is the best surfing being done at both those spots. When it’s big, no one’s close.

Strayan Cunt

I should add I reckon Gabe is the best backside tube rider of all time for the shit he pulls at Backdoor. That joint is a nightmare on your backhand and what he does is there is next level

John Wayne

Best of the goofys for sure

Barrelled

It’s Occy all day for me but, with him out I’ll throw in Luke Egan and Neil Purchase Jr.

Barrelled

I’ll just remove that comment, I misread the original paragraph thinking it was a goofy only thing.

ricmatic

what does being a cunt have to do with being good at something?

Wagner no good?

margo

Tom House

Mike Losness.

some surfer

Wayne Lynch.

deeks

Will Hannah allow a few retro reef ads ? https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
If so I’ll flick through it at the newsagents.

Gil Gunderson

Great shoes

ricmatic

I find the photo on the left offensive


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