"I was expecting to catch 68-year-old man cracks but instead got a once-in-a-lifetime experience."
What a haul. Five, or such, days ago, I left the left coast and flew across America’s red innards to its right one, Orlando, Florida to be specific. The purpose, as our Derek Hynd’s Missing Fins poetically described, was a mini podcast tour with David Lee Scales comprising one night in Jax Beach with the Kelly Slater of longboarding, 11x Duct Tape Invitational champion Justin Quintal, and his fabled shaper Ricky Carroll. The second in Charleston, South Carolina with Jamie Foxx’s best friend Cam Richards and his equally fabled father/shaper Kelly.
I drove a Rivian and fell in love.
There were more fantastic moments than I can adequately describe now. Being with The People™, hearing stories, living, laughing, loving. The aforementioned DHMF a complete highlight but can you guess how he looks/general vibe etc.? It defied my wildest expectations but I won’t spoil the surprise for you.
You will be able to watch both soon but I must Rivian race to the end of the adventure. A cherry on top. Two nights at the best-in-class Florida Surf Film Festival. This quarter’s offering had to highly-anticipated pictures. South African big waver Chris Bertish’s never-before-attempted stand-up paddleboard across the Atlantic from Africa to the Caribbean (which inspired me to explore the idea of attempting to rollerblading from tip to bottom of Florida) and forbidden fruit.
Sam George’s silenced masterpiece about surfing and cinema.
Now, I recall seeing the trailer to this documentary forever ago (it first screened at Cannes in 2010) and addled myself into thinking I had also actually seen the movie itself.
Lowcountry and behold, it has never been released and only seen once there (where it was also screened on beach to much applause and whistles and huzzahs from Frenchmen) plus nowhere else.
Taboo drupe.
Sam, of course, would be present and you’re no stranger to surfing’s preeminent voice here, here, here, here, etc. so I assumed “the most slappable face in surfing” would add but one more notch to crooked nose. The actual meeting occurred at a New Symrna beachfront pool. George marching up with a gregarious “Hey!” The only thing I could mutter was “I’m sorry I’m a dick. I can’t help it.”
“You don’t say that…” he warmly responded while shaking my hand.
His Buddha-like nature shining bright, bouncing off his buffalo bone fish hook pendant.
The last time I had seen Sam George in person was in 2002 right after returning from a Yemen trip he had partially funded by fronting money for a feature in Surfer Magazine, which he was editor-in-chiefing. We had brought him a tin of legendary Yemeni honey along with a box of film slides.
He told me, these 23 years later, that he still keeps the empty tin on the shelf.
We chatted for a bit and then he ran to the venue to prepare for his big night. I followed some few hours later, to Daytona Beach’s News-Journal Center, chatted with more People™, then found my seat.
The film did not disappoint.
Tracking the history of how the movie industry has totally messed up the representation of surfing, from Gidget to Surf’s Up, it was filled with some of the laugh-out-loud funniest minutes of any surf movie I have ever watched. Absolutely hilarious moments. Quinten Tarantino, Steven Spielberg, John Milius, Jan-Michael Vincent, Gary Busey, a bikini’d Nia Peeples, Frankie Avalon and more grant best-ever interviews
It gets crazy bloated, the Big Wednesday chapter should have been its own whole film. And, at this point, I properly loathe a Stacy Peralta talking head. But it also has real heart, though you, yourself, will likely never get to experience. Licensing, or some such, troubles.
And so here. I was expecting to catch 68-year-old man cracks but instead caught a once-in-a-lifetime experience. George made me promise I’d stay to the end of the credits after a long, long five days on the road, because there was a special surprise. It was the least I could do to oblige and I’ll fully spoil it for you here. It’s Frankie Avalon singing Sam George a Beach Blanket song.
If it ever screens again, I recommend attending.
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Nothing more boring than watching or listening to people blah blah blahing.
I’m a big podcast listener. I used to listen to this one regularly, but the vibe wore out very quickly and I stopped listening ages ago. Like Zoolander, they’ve only got one look. My tipping point was in the very early covid days. Chas and David spending over an hour sharing their opinions on virology. Hard pass.
Dear Annette Funicello, I know your reading this in the afterlife. I’ve always had a crush on you and can kinda do an air. Hit me up in the afterlife DM’s.❤️
I listened to that one they did with biolos and of course Derek immediately started banging on about being a Jew. After being polite for about 30 seconds, biolos goes “er, can we talk about something else?”
The trick is to get your angle bang on with your target audience. Critical drinker or Davie 504 have millions of subscribers on YT and basically all they do is prattle on about something they are interested in.
If I’m not driving much I never listen to podcasts. If I’m driving a lot I listen a lot. Major market for these are people with long commutes.
It feels like podcasts are designed around people with commutes. Most of them are 30-90 min so people can listen to an episode in a day, or at most wrap it up the next morning. I know there are longer podcasts out there that are very popular like Joe Rogan but I don’t listen to those.
Trailer kinda fresh from at least the neophytic eye🎭
Well, I’d like to watch it, sounds interesting, but I’d probably watch it just for the Mia Peeple’s clip also.
I’m just happy for the inane calm.
Xox
You could always listen to a few and decide for yourself.
I find them infuriating for that reason.
I want action, not bloviating and ums and ah’s and bobble heads wandering all over the shop and never getting back to the point.
Well, well, well LT. Looks like my BLSJ really finessed your favorite Pickles at Trestles didn’t she?
best I’ve ever seen her surf.
I’m a believer now (*of her turns), she always charges
Her boards look better dialed too for Trestles
Help pay Chas’s bills.
I listen to podcasts all the time while driving. Occaisionally The Grit.
Wait until you hear the limp fish handshake imbroglio on next ep. A professional surfer delivered one and it’ll bring you right back around.
Ah yes most handshake greetings can be very awkward. The one good thing covid did was the prevalence of the fist bump which I now prefer. In Hawaii it’s kinda nuanced and we usually like to hugga hugga and honi honi each other. But for the marginal and first meets a fist bump is my go-to greeting and exit. A quick slight hand slap and fist bump is good too but otherwise I’m always afraid they’re gonna try and pull me in for some kind of smelly sweaty bro hug.
When they wrap their hand around your fist…
Both hands…
I miss the Hawaiian multifaceted hand-jive handshakes, which to be fair, eventually evolved into barely brushing fingertips.
You got my number CB anytime you’re back in the islands 🤙🏾
That’s what cologne is for.
If you can comment here you surely can listen to a podcast?
idk, I have a hard time believing that Australians actually possess the level of reading comprehension that you are proclaiming.
Any tradies over there drivin Rivian?
Me!
Is there enuff room for a large sky hook?
Hahaha
And THAT kind of snappy one
linerworder is whywe all,most,some,a few of usI think you’re abrilliant and wittyperson who could have an internationally sold-out stand-up comedy tour and syndicated TV showsoon,sometime in the future,maybe one day, probably never.…”tradies”…
Me!
Hahahahaha
Is surf journalism not a trade?
Again, you’ve done it again.
…”surf journalism…trade?”…
Seinfeld would’ve killed for that kind of line in his show.
I’m genuinely cracking up out loud from that one, to the extent everyone else in this crowded lunchtime bar just stopped mid-conversation and stared at the guy laughing to himself, then quickly looked away and whispered to each other.
I doubt they’ll be starting any ‘Larry’s style’ feuds with me anytime soon…
A nickel would be a fair trade.
Find us such a person involved with BG and we can ask them. You had Longtom but he’s now plying his trade at Swellnet. I’d not call JP a journalist as (1) he only writes about himself, (2) doesn’t really even surf, and (3) is AWOL. JenSee just does choose your own adventure rated G ramblings she pulls out of the ether.
No
I hear you Gila. I barely ever read BG articles and usually go straight to the comments. As for Chas and DLS grit podcasts, I’ve maybe listened to 1 or 3. It’s maximum stupido that they don’t insert chapter markers. I’d for sure skip around to any interesting parts. But I can’t be fucked to listen to those navel gazing blowhards all the way thru. And somebody should wake up Jen See and pull JP out of the muck. I want my MTV.
I listen on Saturday mornings whilst slowly fixing a breakfast of toast, eggs, kangaroo, camembert, quince paste, Vegemite, sundried tomatoes and olives all washed down with a freshly blended juice with added ag1(no shit!) and a large very strong black coffee. I find the whole experience very Pleasant and I am fuelled to surf and laugh in retrospect all day long. Over the years David has become less pretentious and Chas less of a loudmouth cunt, both settling into very democratic and humorous observations.
Xox
You’ve sold me. I’d like to see the doco now.
Gotta muscle the bloat but the good moments are absolute gold.
Oddly it’s almost an entirely different audience than here. Very little crossover.
So, on average, how many of these odd non-reading/commenting listeners do you actually get ?
I’ll admit to never having listened either, but would read if it was available in written format…
After over a decade of BG and 8 years of pod I’d say 20 People cross.
Soooooo 20 people would be about half of the total regular BG readers/commenters.
Does that mean that similarly you get around 40 regular podcast listeners ?
20 of which do (and equally, don’t) make that crucial crossover between mediums…
Righto Beefy. While ya got Chas rolling ask him for a demographic breakdown of the massive BG readers/listeners he claims. Curious to know xactly how many & from what countries and just exactly where in the US readers/ listeners are from.
Readers and listeners, again, two mostly separate groups. I don’t know. Ask DHMF! He was there! Beef is assuming, I think, that everyone who regularly reads BG also comments. I don’t know what pod demos are but BG is biggest US, second Aus, third Europe, fourth Negatron. Brazil somewhere after that.
I was basing my assumptions on the evidence presented a while ago by an (honest unconnected) third party that a half to a third of all readers are also regular commenters.
Hence the reason Derek works nights in a Kings Cross BDSM dungeon and you do Encinitas-adjacent child minding to pay the bills…
We are terrible at business, it’s absolutely true, but on the horrible worst days in this awful soul crushing slump BG still gets 10k clicks a day, which is why both Derek and I are grinding anything we can to pay even half of our bills. That ain’t great by any measure but I’d take any reader here over smoke and mirror. We both actually care.
Unfortunately Chas it seems I gotta break something to ya matey.
Apart from a few hundred from 20 or so (generally good-natured) regulars, 197 of those clicks are actually from me (with neverending edits), 341 from Otto, a similar number from Happy, and about twice that combined number from the dozenish usual culprits who argue politics etc with them.
The rest are from Negs (and Tim)…
Damn it. I had a sinking feeling. Well. 40 of us there is!
This isn’t why they built Tower 8.
This isn’t why they built Tower 10.
THIS is WHY they built TOWER 9.
Remember those with lives just read the article and don’t go near the time waster that is commenting.
So most people around the world are missing the whole point of the exercise?!?
Of public masturbation? Think that’s obvious why most people avoid that.
Just read and don’t comment…
I only skim the articles and then go straight below the line.
Has the merch branch ever picked up? I went looking for the air freshener for a stupid colognee mash up meme and it’s all the same for years now, stale and outdated.
100 people at event but that recognizes more the Lowcountry love for the Richards and their family coming down. My guess is many in the audience, active to peripheral in the surf scene, had never heard of Chas and DLS pushed Chas as author of two books on surfing. BG not really mentioned at all. My guess is very few in the audience knew of BG, let alone engaged it. Chas seen more as a guy helping DLS on the podcast and who knows West Coast surf industry.
Those of us addicted to BG comments are a unique bunch of delinquents in the larger world of surfing.
That’s probably true. I signed more books that night than I had BG discussions. And the photos etc. were related to pod not BG. Unique bunch of delinquents is right.
I download the latest for every plane ride , so a regular listener above 30,000 feet
Podcasts are massive now. Personally it’s 80% of my ear time vs music these days. There’s sweet fuck all surf related ones. DLS has cleverly filled quite a hole with his consistency, diversity and to be fair, the quality of the product.
Wait, you spend 80% of your ear time listening to people natter on about fuck all? You can borrow my wife if that’s what you want.
Have you not come across this?!? https://archive.org/details/etree
So many free live shows from so many different bands.
Send photos first. 👍🏻
https://www.gettyimages.com…
How do you find the time to do that?
I can’t even keep up with all the 5 minute you-tube edits I want to watch.
I can listen to podcasts (or music) while I work, garden, cook, drive. To be fair my Partner lives in the other side of the Island so plenty of me time.
Sorry. 20 below line artists. Vast vast majority of active BG readers never comment though many also listen to pod.
Mr Smith, would you please just answer the question, honestly.
How many listeners do you get total, regularly, per podcast ?
Thank you.
50-60k a month.
Oh riiiight, so that’s 49-59k Russian ‘bots’.
And about a thousand actual people…
I don’t think Russian bots listen. All I know is that we had full-ish ticketed rooms in both Jax Beach and Charleston on random Wednesday and Thursday nights with zero promotion plus an absolutely embarrassing social media presence. All we did was jabber about on pod. Whatever is happening here is completely organic.
“Whatever is happening here is completely organic.”
Organic means carbon-based, & with conductors transitioning from silicon to carbon, your statement could include bots. What you need is a community notes.
Stab merged with Rolling Stone, maybe you and X could do a deal.
Australian and i listen, gets me through the day sometimes.
None of we-the-readers fail to comment. Not a one. What you see here in the comments is what you get.
Those that attempt listening quickly nod off. Maybe market BG as a sleep aid?
I could be wrong on every point, but the annoying format of this site would account for that. Glitchy and irritating. A more straightforward and cleaner approach would find you soaring above and beyond Stab and Teh Inertia.
I’m still waiting for the books on tape version of Reports From Hell, read by Oliver North
I was waiting for Mark Lanegan but the immortal proved otherwise!
Xox
Ollie reading Report From Hell perched on the rocks of Ollie’s Point. Mics situated to actually capture background waves breaking sound while doing the audio reading.
I listen every week and read every day. I have a job where curated podcasters nattering in the background actually helps productivity. Thought there was more of us particular degenerates, but nice to know we’re rare.
Bless you.
I had an incredible bahn mi sandwich yesterday, inspired by Noble Rot.
I’m in this same boat as well