Kelly Slater on Greg Webber surfboard.
Slater on a Webber.

“Almost killed many who rode it” The Untold Story of the Board That Rewrote Surf History

This is how creativity works. The link between madness and creativity is undeniable.

Growing up in Sydney in the 60s and 70s, in the art world, my brothers and I were surrounded by experimental artists. Both of our parents were exhibiting sculptors, and all of my uncles and aunts were highly acclaimed and award-winning painters and photographers.

Between 1970 and 1973, my mother’s brothers, Greg and Dick Weight, were part of Martin Sharp’s artists’ collective, The Yellow House.

​As kids, we spent many weekends exploring the three-story terrace in Elizabeth Bay, checking out the ever-changing artworks and installations and watching the live performances.

One Saturday morning, we sat with a small audience and watched as a little dishevelled blond-headed surfer called George Greenough rolled out a screen and projected the final sequence of his recent surfing film, The Innermost Limits of Pure Fun. The segment was called The Coming of Dawn and was the first point-of-view 16mm camera work, featuring what he called “Barrel Vision” footage from inside the tube looking out.

George Greenough - Deep Tube Riding | Inner(lost) Limits of Pure Fun

​But sometimes, it was thought, these creatives went too far, and it was not uncommon for them to be lambasted in the press for being too cavalier in their approach to the fine arts.

One example of this was when a family friend, the avant-garde filmmaker Alby Thoms, screened his new experimental film Marinette at the 1969 Sydney Film Festival. Marinette is widely regarded as one of Australia’s earliest avantgarde feature films and a major document of the late‑1960s counterculture. When my parents returned home from the film’s premiere, Dad told us almost everybody else walked out. The critics were scathing, attacking the film and the artist for wasting their time.

​But interestingly, when the jump cut editing technique that Albe employed in the film, the very thing that annoyed people so much, was used more sparingly in a film by another filmmaker, Dennis Michales, in his feature film Rhapsody in Blue, the critics loved it. My brothers and I saw that crazy film at the Co-op in Kings Cross, which was screened before the new surfing film we had actually gone to see, Morning of the Earth.

The Board So Extreme It Nearly Ended Careers… And Birthed Modern Surfing

​In 1990, my brother Greg owned a surfboard company called Insight. One day, he rang me and asked me to come and film a new young surfer he had just sponsored. By that stage, I had been filming many of the best surfers in the world, both in competition and freesurfing.

To say that this freckle-faced young kid blew me away is an understatement. The theatrical ferocity with which he attacked every wave was not something I had ever seen before. The smooth style and concentrated precision with which he violently desecrated these waves was unconscionable. His name was Shane Herring.

​Over the next two years, I filmed Shane and Greg’s other team riders, Mike Rommelse and Richie Lovett, for a film I made for O’Neill called Liquid Planet. During this time, we travelled to Lord Howe Island, the Great Barrier Reef, Indonesia and Hawaii. In 1992, Shane won the first pro contest he ever entered, The Coke Classic, beating Kelly Slater in a much-anticipated USA versus Australia showdown.

​But Shane was concerned that he might not be able to keep beating Kelly. And so he asked Greg to make him a surfboard that would let him do a 360-degree turn inside the tube. Greg thought about this for a while and came up with an extremely thin surfboard with exaggerated rocker and deep concave. What was soon to become known as the Banana Board.

I filmed the first surf that Shane, Mike, and Richie had on these new boards, at South Avalon in the winter of ‘92. There were four of us there that day, standing by the pool: me, Greg, still photographer Peter Aitchison, and Simon Anderson. After their first few waves, Simon congratulated Greg and told him he would forever be remembered for his innovative contribution to surfboard design.

Classic Surf Videos - Liquid Planet 'New World Order' ( O'Neill )

But what happened next did not occur according to plan.

​In October, Greg shaped a quiver of Banana Board guns for each of his teamriders to take to Hawaii. We were all pumped to have a 1967-like, Nat Young, Bob MacTavish, Paul Witzig, shortboard-revolution-type experience, but unfortunately, that’s not what happened.

The failure of the Banana Board in Hawaii

What happened on the North Shore was a disaster.

The guys not only struggled to catch waves, but when they did, the boards didn’t work. After getting smashed and humiliated, they returned to the house we had rented with their tails between their legs to lick their wounds. Needless to say, they gave up on the new designs and asked Greg to shape them some new quivers of old-fashioned surfboards.

And this is when things got really interesting.

​Greg, being as creatively bullheaded as he is, told his surfers that he would not shape them new boards and that they just had to knuckle down, cop the beating from the waves and the critics, and push through to triumph. There was a secret meeting between Greg’s team riders, an uprising, and a coup d’etat. The boys all got other shapers to make them new boards.

​While Greg was demonised by some in the surfing industry for putting his surfers through that crazed test of loyalty in Oahu, I was impressed by his dedication.

Risking other people’s lives to make his point, what bravado!

But the media backlash was nothing compared to the beating Greg was going to take from the hundreds, maybe thousands, of surfers who bought Banana Boards and hated them.

​Some in the surf media also accused Greg’s creative innovation of contributing to Shane Herring’s tragic fall from the top 16 and, eventually, from grace altogether.

But I can assure you, Shane’s collapse had nothing to do with the Banana Boards; it had everything to do with his inability to deal with success and subsequent substance abuse. I should know. That binge led me into recovery and Shane to his eventual death earlier this year.

​But the moral of this story is simple.

The radical innovations Greg made to surfboard design, which I described at the time as “hyper neurotic to the point of psychotic” and which, despite almost killing many who rode them, did find their way into surfboard design more broadly.

​This is how creativity works.

The link between madness and creativity is undeniable.

And while it’s far easier to mock than make, sometimes the mockers are beneficial in getting the makers to settle down and pull their heads in.

But this doesn’t usually have any lasting effect, and the creatives go back to pushing boundaries, stirring the pot, and being attacked for it.

Something that becomes quite addictive.

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ricmatic

Got rid of that damned banana piece of shit. Went straight to a fat ass, no rocker thick as fuck fish and happiness came my way.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

His backside ones were release, not carving through the turn.

Hippy

Has anyone done a carving backside 360? Leverage wise very diff on your heel edge through the back half….. can’t recall ever seeing one

Can’t even mind surf it.

Hippy

I’m forced by secrecy to pretend that you don’t know where it is so that Barreled won’t blow in.

Barrelled

Pffft!! Not my fault you think Rincon is a secret spot still. 😘

Brutus

possibly the greatest hoax in surfboard design history….!!

Strayan Cunt

What the fuck would you know about it Brutus haha

Brutus

exactly…it must hurt some egos I am still around…LOL….

Capt Sensible

Agree , and second place goes to Bob and h8s so called v bottom short bosrds that were actually about 9ft long.

Brutus

OK story…I was in france when the banana boards were first used in South Africa then France. Greg went too far with the banana boards to the point they just were too slow and boggy…..I had a license agreement at the time with onboard……and they refused to let their riders use anything else unless they broke the boards….one morning I saw Mike Rommelse smashing his surfboard on the road so he could come and get some boards…….I borrowed a Banana board and Tom Curren and I took it for a test drive…board paddled so bad and when you finally got onto a wave it was soooo slow and didn’t want to go down the line at all ….possibly the worst surfboard have surfed…apparently after the first board…Greg went even more rocker……..but so was born the Banana board, and was quickly ( within mths) relegated to the surfboard design failures of history!

Capt Sensible

That story paints a picture doesnt it , having to smash a board so you were not forced to ride ir ,talk about contractual handcuffs.

Hippy

TOMO was right there….. No projection, just pivot

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

no, sorry.

Was responding to bob.

Hippy

double arm plants through the rotation too.

you can hate what the phone has done to Ke11y, but the only other guy who can do that turn is a tradie at hillbilly point

Tom House

“This is how creativity works. The link between madness and creativity is undeniable.”

Lol. Brother, get an editor.

Chazz Michael Michaels

I’m guessing, right, that it was edited (with a hatchet) from the 3000 or so words originally submitted.

Hippy

My nephew attended a school for the arts located within a gang ridden prison of a high school that had a performance artist enrolled

The kids art installation was taking a shit inside the school building without getting caught. This floor that floor, even the school paper began covering the performances. Lasted for months until the rumor mill focused on one kid and he was surveilled.

Turns out, he was the svengali handler for the real artist, his girlfriend.

Barrelled

When you quote someone, you’re supposed to identify who said it. Otherwise it’s called plagiarism.

Barrelled

Autobiography?

JSC

If these “Banana Boards” are such steaming piles of shit, perhaps Greg Webber could shape a couple with the ultra-rocker and concave, the exact as possible specifications, and let people actually RIDE ONE and give their opinion.

After all, if people now think the McCoy “Lazer Zap” winged keel single-fin was actually a functional surfboard, they may now have a revised and quite different opinion of the Webber Banana –

Capt Sensible

Very very good point and not all lightning bolts or persian slippers were good designs and if you look for example at some of the shit Nat Young and Kanga shapped you wonder how they managed to become collectors pieces.

JSC

More Monty Webber.

Less Chas Smith.

Better Beach Grit.

Chazz Michael Michaels

Hard disagree.

You might not like what Chas does (I don’t always, as it happens) but he’s infinitely smarter and a shit ton more creative than the new guy.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Chas is on cruise control here and we all know it.

Chazz Michael Michaels

Cruise control requires forward momentum and sense of direction

Strayan Cunt

Hahahahaha

Barrelled

Has thicker skin than anyone else on here though.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

After Yemen,Mick on the North Shore, Googans right hand, and a first marriage we’re fairy dust to deal with.

Hippy

way less emotional and self deluded too…. Monty is drama queen

Capt Sensible

Monty is chaneling his inner narsistic Nic Carroll

Skippy

bro shut the fuck up with that

Barnycle

Thanks for the interesting story about the coup by the team riders. That’s surf history right there.

The Aussies won’t agree with me but, despite Herring ripping and having a great style, Dorian and Slater had a more aesthetic style by 1993 than Herring did. Just smoother and better looking on the waves.

Hippy

Chris Brown, barnacle

Herring looked forced.

Kalani, Mob, even Browning… RIP, smoother.

And, Brownie beat Kelly at Lowers, judges were fucked. Wasn’t sleeping with Matt George either……

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

nah

Truth

So your uncle’s Dick Weight. How heavy is it.

Firelipe Torpedo

Sounds like this creative visionary moved to mainland China to peruse his muse

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

Is “arabist” a word?

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

On BG it is!

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

it was a great title.

Key Board Champ Agne

My 6’0” x 18” x 2” Kelly trend was the truly awful board. I had a Firewire Banana (more tame, I know) and it was nice!

Chazz Michael Michaels

Couldn’t make it through the first paragraph before my face inverted through cringing so hard.

We get it, Monty. You’re kind of a big deal, right? Your apartment smells of rich mahogany and you have many leather-bound books.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Supposedly his brother makes the best bookshelves….

Barnycle

I disagree. I didn’t find the intro too pretentious at all.

It’s also kinda nice to have a new, regular contributor here. For a while DR and Chas were the only two writing articles.

Chazz Michael Michaels

Well, I like writing that is evocative or clever. I’ve taught writing to teenagers too long to read anymore “stories” which amount to little more than “I did this, then I did that, then we did this, then we all went home, and aren’t I great…”

It’s all very well having been there, but if the account of it is nothing more than saying that (over and over) I’m afraid it just doesn’t do it for me.

Edit: and especially when it’s preaching CREATIVITY!

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Maybe that’s the problem, that none of us have reached the maturity of teenagers. You’re going lower in the world JP, not higher, with our bunch.

Chazz Michael Michaels

I’m not trying to go anywhere tbh. But I am here for occasional flashes of writing I might not see anywhere else. Even if they are mostly confined to DR’s witticisms these days.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

He’s his own genre. Surf media others don’t get it, either.

Hippy

You should read this dude’s jogging blog…. very very good reads.

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

to be honest, even though I may not agree with the new guy- it is a bit of a breath of fresh air.

He’s got a set of nuts on him, you have to give him that.

Hippy

How so? He melts down like a witch that’s been doused with a beer

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

then shows back up to the job site next morning with a fresh contribution.

thats ballsy.

Hippy

Well, he got released from the last “ jobsite”

Fun part, he melred down but was treated incredibly fairly

Like someone primed him, they are mean and will attack

Well, seemed a phantom attack to me orhis proactive defense system

notsurfingtoday

Its a thin line between writing from the inside as ‘historical’ events unfolded in a minimally engaging fashion vs. excessive namedropping and self congratulation.
Im still on the fence for monty. But yeah spare me the religious and sharky shit.

channelbottom

Elf-shoe blues.


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